If you’re wondering if Article Marketing Robot works before you buy it, or if you’re looking for a new tool to help with indexing or helping a website to rank, I wrote this for you…
Recently I’ve been having a heckuva time with ranking a certain web property – because of the nature of my linking efforts and the property being a web 2.0 site, I won’t say what property it is (getting paranoid). When it was first published, it was at #189 for the main term.
That was fine…but screwy. Usually my keywords are pretty easy to rank for (I’ve used Micro Niche Finder this year for a majority of my research – but not this time: did it by hand). So when I publish something and it starts out on page 18 or 19 it’s surprising.
Then I hit it with ArticleRanks (just one article so far), EzineArticles, ArticlesBase (2 each, cross-posted so it’s the same article)…no real movement.
I pinged the web 2.0 property in question… Pinged the articles… (Used Bookmarking Demon’s ping list: you put in your own list, which is cool.)
Nuttin’, honey. I started using Article Marketing Robot gingerly – just dipping my toe in the water: 10 articles a day. The first week was like that.
Gradually I stepped it up. 15 articles…20…25…
Until, by the third week – I was hitting it twice a day (this was on a weekend): 25 then 40 then 50 at a time.
That’s the trouble with Article Marketing Robot – it has 1877 article directories now!
I’m impatient. I blasted the remaining 600+ directories when I noticed that there were NO backlinks recorded ANYWHERE (I use SEO Spyglass, Yahoo! Site Explorer, Web SEO Analytics and some random others).
Ugh! I’m on page FIFTY. I almost cried. Sometimes you just need to, ya know?
Anyway – I figured, at PAGE FIFTY I didn’t have much to lose. It’s not like I was making any sales anyway. I let ‘er rip and hit up 600+ directories in a day (and I plan to follow up with a blast from Magic Article Submitter in about a week – another 1k or so).
The next day I was on pages 2-4 for the 7 terms I targeted.
Boo. Ya.
There are other things I’m doing – blog commenting, for one, and I’ll post about that soon. Pretty cool results from that, hopefully I can tell you how to get the same results (I amaze myself sometimes, although I might bore you to tears).
I also just fired up Bookmarking Demon again – it’s been a while, since I THRASHED my other PC using it when I was still really wet behind the ears and had no idea what I was doing with it. I downloaded a Trojan that was actually a Spartan who took my PC and said:
This is SPARTA!
Then he drop-kicked my PC into oblivion and my computer tech buddy from church said, “That Trojan looked like a Spartan, he kicked your PC into oblivion.” That’s how I know it was a confused Trojan, for the record.
The point is that I didn’t know I needed an anti-virus to run Bookmarking Demon, or didn’t care, I forget which. I learned that lesson the hard way. I also used to think BMD was really confusing – and it is – but now I know a little more of what I’m doing.
I think.
So I’ve fired up big red again and fell back in love with her – that’s the other thing I’m doing for links (although I haven’t used it for much else than creating new accounts so I CAN use it).
The confusing thing about article marketing is – I still don’t see ANY of my articles in YSE, not EzineArticles, ArticlesBase, nothin’.
I don’t care, though, because I can find my EZA and AB articles in Google searches, so I know they’re there, and I’ve pinged them using my ping list in BMD, and linked back to them in my Article Marketing Robot blast. My results make me want to say -
Get Article Marketing Robot
Seriously, that thing is a link beast on steroids with a fat, red cape flapping behind it.
It works, but I don’t understand the correlation between my site’s rankings, and the utter lack of ANY article backlinks showing up (I’ve submitted over a thousand articles and have used ArticleRanks…and now I’m ranking for the most competitive terms I’ve ever targeted for myself.)
If I just looked at the number of backlinks, I’d be left thinking AMR and AR don’t work – and I think that’s what makes the least sense in all of this. But I don’t build links to have a record of tons of links – I build them to rank.
From every experiment I’ve conducted with AMR, I can tell you that article marketing ain’t dead, folks.
If article marketing is dead, I’m Bruce Lee.
Let’s fight.
(OK, just don’t actually HIT me. Or kick, throw or otherwise hurt me. In fact, let’s NOT fight, because I’m NOT Bruce Lee – and article marketing is as dead as Rock n Roll, Hip Hop or Polka…)
>> Polka is NOT dead…in case you’re wondering. <<
Onto another matter entirely -
Note on My Blogging Frequency
Recently, Dave mentioned (from Making Money on the Internet Free) he was not going to blog until the New Year’s. I wanted to follow in suit, I think it’s safe to say I need more passive income and blogging here is more out of enjoyment than out of profit.
So, the blogging frequency here is going to go way down – take note that I’m still around, but with holidays, a family trip to my mom’s back to California in…a DAY…and the utter lack of time – I have to put more time in my passive and active income plans.
I’m not sure I can say, “See ya next year,” I have a couple of other posts I need to do (like follow up on my newbie’s ebook’s “release” so to speak) but note, I won’t be here tons for the rest of the year (I think).
I do want to follow up with a blog comment list of tips that I’ve been seeing some good results with, and I’m debating what tool to use to do that with (it would save a lot of time if I could use a solid URL harvester and manually do blog commenting with it, more on that in a future post).
Until then, I’ll be writing, linking and ranking – hopefully selling!
My Three Tool Recommendations From This Post:
ArticleRanks
Bookmarking Demon
Article Marketing Robot
P.S.: Did I tell you the story of how this one site jumped 500 spots up the SERPs from THREE articles? Only ONE was spun…that’s not a ton of writing…just sayin’.
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Uneducated people do say article marketing is dead, but that’s for the people who don’t use them that much..it’ s all about staying consistent.
“Black Seo Guy “Signing Off”
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“Official Black SEO Guy” is about the coolest post slug I’ve seen in a while, Antonio. I don’t know what you’re doing on my blog – you got nothin’ to learn from me, man!
You’re the real 6-figure deal. I’m still learning what you’ve learned, applied and long since forgotten! (That’s supposed to be a compliment, sorry, it’s my bed time.)
Do you know what?
If you don’t take that bloody spam trap off this bloody site I am going to come over there and say bloody until you bloody well take the bloody thing off this bloody site that uses that bloody annoying bloody spam bloody trap.
That was not my original comment in any bloody way and I am not going to bloody well bloody repeat it again.
p.s
Get to work ;)
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Guess you must be one of the “93 bad guys” he’s caught so far with it… ;P
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With three comments, I’d call you out.
Nanny, nanny…boo boo.
Bloody ‘ell. It worked. I took it off. **snivel, wince, snivel**
You ‘appy, mate? Blood pudding and tea kettles. There.
‘Ope you’re ‘appy.
:)
Yay :)
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Apparently my complaints were meaningless. Whatev’
Thanks Dave. I was boycotting until he took that stupid check box off. Now I’ll boycott b/c he listened to you but not me.
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OK, this is seriously on my wish list now. I only seem to only read good reviews of AMR, so it’s now the second tool on my to-buy-once-I’m-not-completely-broke list (the first one is Scrapebox… :) )
Anyway, I’m going to miss your blog posts over the next couple of months, but I hope you have a great Christmas and trip. Love that photo of you, BTW.
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Ummm, I think that should say something like “I seem to only read good reviews of AMR” … off to fix some coffee now!
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Spammer
I’m going to TRY to be like Dave – he gives solid advice, that guy – so I *might* be here on and off again. (This is the only place I get to really have fun with writing, besides my personal blog.)
Thanks – and yeah, the photo was a close-up before coffee. Watch out.
Um, all calm now. Thanks for the link from your wonderful blog that never annoys me with its stupid spam trap that……………………………….
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You win, Dave…dangit…you always win….
I hate that I missed your comments, man!! It’s not worth it. Spam me, please, porn, pills and poker – I just don’t want to miss a comment.
I’m going to check this out after the New Year… have to buy Christmas gifts and no extra money right now :) Enjoy your time with your family this holiday season!
BTW, when I tried reading this site in IE, the font was absolutely huge once it got down to “This is Sparta” You may want to check it out.
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That’s horrid news! Ugh. I’m so NOT technical…well, at least you will now upgrade to Firefox.
:)
Actually, I have no idea what to do about that, but thanks for the tip, Tiffany. That bugs. I totally get the money thing – I’m going to try to convince the family to participate in “The Advent Conspiracy” this year…
1) Saves money.
2) Teaches (hopefully) generosity…
3) Saves money.
AMR is interesting piece of soft! I hear very positive reviews everywhere I hang on. It’s interesting if AMR offers 1-click spinning of words and phrases like MAR and TBS do?
Asking James the AMR expert :-)
It does offer 1-click spinning, but you have to build up your own thesaurus. The developer is hopefully working on that, but you might want to try the Best Spinner’s recent updates.
Also: there’s a new player in the spinning world, Jason Potash (is that his name?) just released “Rewrite Rocket” which looks fairly promising with the auto rewrite function. Some say it’s better than The Best Spinner (I just watched the vids on it, seems pretty good so far!).
Unfortunately, I can’t say first hand, but if I was in the market and English wasn’t my first language, I’d check it out (bad news: it’s $97, but you get TWO licenses, which is great when you outsource).
Re: AMR as a spinner – I haven’t built up my thesaurus, but if I did, I’m sure I’d love it. As it stands, I’ve built up my MAR thesaurus of synonyms, along with the “Magic Tokens Database,” so if I hit my own tokens I get fairly readable content that’s 40-50% unique. Then I clean it up from there and get it to 85-95% unique.
It’s still my fave…(Only because TBS stopped working on my PC…ugh!)
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Cool I wrote a super comment and now it’s gone :(. It said I was spamming :-S.
I will try to recreated from my mind.
I am glad all this tools are working for you and you are using lots of them.
I also decided to start trying some of the article submission website but I don’t think I will try any of software versions.
I was watching a video when I first wrote the comment so I made a reference to it and said that although I liked your review I was watching it to understand the software better (and I also inserted a funny remarks :(..darn it).
Saving this message first and submitting after!
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Alex – yeah, having issues myself with the blog.
I’m either hacked or just made a mess of my blog with the anti-spam war.
The sad thing is that you have the “bad guys” spamming the web with Scrapebox or XRumer, then a webmaster takes action, then it jacks up everyone’s experience.
So…I dunno. I’ll just have to think of a different option that’s not time consuming for me, and not killing the legitimate comments for you all.
For the record – MY OWN BLOG won’t let me comment!! I’m removing one plugin, then another, finding out the hard way that I’m on some lists as a bad guy.
Funny that – I don’t spam.
RE: buying tools or not – I didn’t buy anything until my income was enough to justify it. Then it was just a reinvestment.
Even UAW, I have some subscribers and ArticleRanks, the same thing – so I don’t have to pay for them – they break even (well, UAW doesn’t quite break even yet, but it’s close).
My “secret” really isn’t a secret to using all these tools: buy them use them, test them – then sell them. Then all of a sudden, you’re no longer buying them…
(Thanks to all of you for buying through my links, by the way.)
By the way, if you only had one tool, AMR could really handle your needs for a while.
I didn’t read most of the post just because I don’t have the cash for new tools and don’t want to be left wishing I did lol… but just wanted to say hope everything goes well for you before new year. Definitely understand the need for a break!
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Ruth – totally understand. I’m on a budget myself, and if you’re doing something that’s sufficient for your needs, I wouldn’t add to it unless you wanted to.
In the case of article distribution, once I discovered the benefit of multiple uses of one spun article (diff. channels of distribution) then I began my happy experimentation…OH I’m glad I did!
But it’s not for everyone – only those who prefer to use articles or are already spinning and submitting.
I’m going to be experimenting further with it to see how far I can push it and how spinning versus not affects rankings just to put that controversy to bed (for my own eyes).
Thanks for stopping by – and don’t feel compelled to change what’s working for you as it is. I get excited when I see some crazy results as I’ve been seeing, and want to share that with as many people as I can.
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Okay James-it is time to use Akismet. You get one free time, and then I think it is $5 after that-I use it on my blog and then I take the comment section off of all of my other sites. I do not think anyone will comment on a niche site until it is really big!
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Yeah, I was sad to find out that more than one license of Akismet incurs a payment. TO KILL spam, Akismet + GASP = NO spam.
Just…um…make sure your blog theme doesn’t make it a hassle. Then whiny babies from Britain and Pennsylvania…er…Spain and Amish Country someplace…will start crying.
And then, when you decide to post a clever retort and then YOU get to taste the same bitter pill as your frustrated peeps…then you want to walk the plank.
So, like I was saying…Happy Thanksgiving! (Sorry, been driving for TWELVE hours and got online to finish a gig for a new client…I’m wiped.)
JamestheJust on Elance recently posted..Does Article Marketing Robot Work
I love Article Marketing Robot and have been using it since August. My sites are getting more traffic than ever and my Adsense earnings are up. Prior to using AMR I dreaded submitting articles to directories because to took me hours and hours. Now I submit to high PR article directories (GoArticles, EzineArticles, ArticleBase, etc) and the process is painless. I can’t say enough good things about AMR!
Thanks, Shelly, for sharing your 2 cents on it. I’ve tried the main ones, and apart from a monthly service, this is the best article submitter you could ask for (submit spun or not-spun articles, top directories – doesn’t get much better).
Hey James, I’ve just read in a post at WF that you actually dropped UAW in favor of AMR? I also have AMR and started using it recently, but not quite sure how many to blast…I’ve been thinking for a while to leave UAW and I think I’ll actually do it when this month ends. I mean it really gets creepy. No matter how many I set per day (I went as low as 12 per day and with 8-24 diff. resource boxes), one week after my sites always drop. It’s like WTF?? I think UAW is cursed, there.
Anyway, if you get a few mins, let me know how you’re using AMR, per article, to how many directories you blasting it and at what rate?
Btw, I really had to giggle at this post of yours, love your sense of humor!
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Marika…Uh…yeah, I sorta went nuts in the WF. I just can’t stand two things: 1) When people say that what I’ve seen working does NOT work, it’s a joke….really, 2) When people make statements like, “Unless you’re manually submitting to 10 directories, max, you’re wasting your time…take SIX MONTHS and…write quality articles….”
Kills me.
The way I use AMR depends on my targets. If I’m using it to hit Web 2.0′s and secondary targets in a link wheel, I’m pretty generous, may even blast it in 5-10 days, 100+ at a time.
If I hit a new site of mine, I drip feed.
Week 1:
10/day
Week 2:
15-20/day
Week 3:
25-35/day
Week 4:
The rest, at once.
I have no guarantee what this will do or not to your site, so I watch the SERPs during submission. It will bounce – but I took a Web 2.0 from 500 to top 10 in 3.5 weeks. (Mind you it was a web 2.0, not a new domain of mine.)
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Oh…and I randomize it, so it’s not 10 per day every day for 7 days, but more like 9, then 11, then 12, then 10….I never use the scheduler because I want it random.
And:
So far I haven’t indexed any links. My SERPs movement says: who needs to, again? At least, that’s currently my experience.
OH!
Always vary the targets, the anchor text as well. Every time I do a submission, I start this way:
1) Write articles 400+ words, unique and solid in content. 4-5 at first.
2) Submit to Ezine, ArticlesBase, Buzzle or whatever (cut and paste).
3) Spin ONE for AMR (I want to see what happens after ONE article, otherwise I might waste my time or what not).
4) Select my targets: including different landing pages on my site, not just the home page, and different articles from step 2 (wait until they are published).
5) Submit it to ArticleRanks and AMR, as outlined above. If I still had UAW I’d use that – and I always saw my sites dance in UAW, by the way. I never worried about it because they always came back, though.
I rewrite especially:
Titles
1st Paragraph
Final Paragraph
Resource boxes…
The middle paragraphs I don’t worry too much about, but will spin every word, sentence, phrase…
The title, 1st/last paragraph, resource boxes I will rewrite at least 2 times, sometimes 3 – except the title, actually (I rewrite as many as 10 titles).
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Wow quite comprehensive reply there James, perfect, many thanks. Lots to digest. I also usually spin the title at least 5-6 times even for UAW.
Btw, I upgraded my Articleranks account yesterday from free to monthly, not sure if you got the aff. from me. If not, let me know and maybe we can talk to the guy to credit you with it. Told you a while ago that I already had a free account so not sure if the cookie is picked when going through your link, logging in and then upgrading…
Oh and I will have to pick your brains on Articleranks…I’m struggling with it. I don’t like the rewriting interface and I can’t make much sense of it, lol.
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Re: ArticleRanks, don’t worry about it – someone got the commission and it’s all good. I’m sure they deserved it! But thanks, Marika.
Oh and btw, I fully agree with your posts on that thread at the WF…
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Thanks, Marika (re: WF ranting…)
Re: ArticleRanks, if you have MAR you can export fairly easily with AMA or MAN output.
Usually I’ll use a token for my 2-3 links, like
%%KW1%%
Then I’ll spin, and if you use TBS it’s easy as well (correct me if I get this backwards, my copy of TBS no longer works so I was given a refund…sorta wished they fixed it instead).
But in TBS the first level / second level spin option would be:
{ ~ }
[ | ]
Hope that makes sense – it’s in the options of the spinner output.
So you would spin like normal, then save that spin format in the normal JetSpinner type of syntax:
{Like {this|that|the other}|Do it this way|Try this}
Then your output would look like:
{Like [this|that|the other]~Do it this way~Try this}
Try that and see if it works for you. What I do with AR is I’ll get the spun article and where I have my links/anchor text, I’d have a token instead (which is what I meant above with this:
%%KW1%%
That would then become my anchor text and links.
I always spin both. I use the HTML editor in AR for that.
Open the HTML editor rather than the WYCIWYG and find/replace your token with your links.
To do that, I usually have another text editor (Notepad ++) open, with my tokens and their replacements.
So for link 1, it might be:
href=”{URL1~URL2~URL3}” + {anchor text~anchor 2~anchor 3}
I’ve left out the brackets because I don’t know how to note code without it actually being read as HTML, but the point is that the URLs and anchor texts are delimited with the curly brackets and tilde, not the pipe and square brackets.
The same for the other 1-2 links. Once I’ve done the find/replace in the text editor, I save it, test it out by using the preview, and eat popcorn…
And the reason I do it that way (for anyone thinking I’m nuts), it’s because I use the same article (mostly) for AMR submissions. So in my AMR submission (or wherever) I’ll replace the KW token with rotated KW’s instead.
The reason being, with AMR you don’t get to use the links in text, you need the links in the resource box. Whenever I submit through another channel, I just rewrite titles, resource boxes, first and last paragraphs.
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Oh actually ignore my cry for help. I hate their internal spinner but with TBR and then exported to proper format is a breeze. Now let’s see how many will pick up my article :)
Now off to post the same with AMR!
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Darn, just saw your reply. I haven’t used yet Tokens, but you gave me a few good idea there. Muchas gracias senor for the indepth reply! :)
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De nada, seniorita.
ArticlesBase is nofollow just so you know. Kind of a waste to submit to IMHO
Zach –
I’ve heard that before, but have you used them lately? Here’s two reasons I’ll keep using ArticlesBase – actually 3 reasons:
1) They syndicate like nobody’s business. I have NO idea why – but they syndicate better than any other article directory, including EzineArticles. What’s their secret? Dunno.
2) Since they syndicate better than anyone, your articles with the resource box wind up in all sorts of sundry places – other blogs mostly, and this is pretty much the point in using directories. I send them and EzineArticles my best (just copy paste, and use the same author name).
3) They show up in Google Webmaster tools as links – so if Google reports the link (they don’t always show the links you build, but they sure do w/EZA and AB) – they’re good in my book.
OK, bonus:
4) I don’t really mind. Dofollow/Nofollow – for a natural linking profile, any website worth its salt has a mix. If you ONLY have PR 5 DoFollow links – it’s plainly NOT natural and you’ll definitely raise a red flag.
Just like spamming the web with thousands of links to “Main Keyword” to your homepage, which is “MainKeyword.com” – you’ll kill your rankings. Always vary anchors, always vary dofollow/nofollow, and always vary C-Class IP addresses, country of origin of the links, source of links (blogs in content are some of the best, and EDU / GOV links if you can, blog comment links, article directory, website directory, press release…forum signatures and profiles).
It’s good, in other words, to make SURE you have these types of links – but I’m having a hard time with the myth about AB being a waste of time. They’re not – but you’re not the only person to try to tell me so, it’s a common belief.
The only real way to test is to … well, test.
After a year and change of doing this – I have stopped using GoArticles – but ArticlesBase is one of the best when you want your articles published by other blogs. Don’t take my word for it, though – give it a shot. If you’re using EZA, just copy/paste into AB – that takes all of 3 minutes an article. The rewards are worth it. :)
“They syndicate like nobody’s business. I have NO idea why – but they syndicate better than any other article directory… your articles with the resource box wind up in all sorts of sundry places”
Interesting. This was something I was not aware of. Are you getting dofollow links from your Articles Base articles that get syndicated? Because it looks like if someone just copies and pastes straight from ArticlesBase to their blog, the links remain nofollow. If they click on the “Like this article? Click here to publish” button and copy the HTML from there, however, they become dofollow. If you are getting a lot of dofollow links from these articles getting put on other blogs, then you are right, it does sound like it would definitely be worth submitting there.
“Just like spamming the web with thousands of links to “Main Keyword” to your homepage, which is “MainKeyword.com” – you’ll kill your rankings. Always vary anchors, always vary dofollow/nofollow, and always vary C-Class IP addresses”
This does make sense intuitively, yet I’ve actually found the best results when doing the opposite. Getting all your links from different C-Class IP addresses is definitely essential but I’ve found that I actually get better results when I don’t vary the anchor text at all and only focus on getting dofollow links while ignoring nofollow.
I do agree that if a human were looking at the linking profile, and saw that all of the links were using the exact same anchor text and none of them were nofollow, that would look suspicious. But Google is not a human, it is an algorithm, and all the evidence I’ve seen suggests that it does not take any consideration into what percentage of your links use a certain anchor text, which is why I no longer vary it at all or make any attempt to look “natural” by adding valueless nofollow links. And Terry Kyle also made a big point in “Backlinks Hydra” about consistently using the same anchor text without variation, so I know I’m not the only one who feels this way.
I definitely do agree with this though:
“If you’re using EZA, just copy/paste into AB – that takes all of 3 minutes an article”
It definitely does not take much time to submit an article to ArticlesBase if you’ve already written it for other directories, especially with the help of tools like Magic Submitter, so there’s definitely no harm in doing it. And if ArticlesBase articles are ending up on lots of blogs with dofollow links in them, then that does sound like its worthwhile and I may add ArticlesBase back into my arsenal. So thank you for letting me know that.
Good luck with your SERP rankings.
Zach
Zach -
Thanks for the reply. If you read Tracey’s experiment, not that long ago, re: her testing of slamming just the same anchor with links – she lost rankings.
I’ve found the same to be true – but SEO is an experiment. Google doesn’t advocate link building officially, and I’m too lazy to look up what they say on the matter.
Having your site dance the Google 2-step waltz as you build links quickly is common – but I’ve had sites disappear for months when I don’t vary the anchor text.
The other reason I vary anchors is to rank for more terms.
Lastly, I vary anchors because I want to pollute my link profile – you betcha I want to add a ton of data so my competitors don’t easily see what I’d like to rank for.
For a human perspective: it’s in a webmaster’s best interest to have a mix, IMHO. As a competitor in the market, I don’t want to make it easy to find my main bread winners.
For the same reason, I’ll include general keywords, and articles that are purely informational….link wheels and tiers…the whole nine.
And I disagree with Terry on this one: I think the algo – which is programmed by humans – does filter out link spam. It’s their job. One easy way to do so would be to filter out an abnormal mix of “main keyword” type links.
Over-optimizing for a keyword / spamming the index in an obvious fashion is a risk I don’t take myself – but to each his own (like I said, it’s not like Google is up and sharing this information – I just know what’s hurt my own rankings in the past, and I don’t dance with Google, I climb their SERPs).
I don’t know Terry personally, no axe to grind with him – but I think the algo’s a lot smarter than he thinks. One sure way to lose in business and in war is to underestimate your foe. I’d rather act as if it’s freaking Sky Net and Albert Einstein rolled into one – then just play my cards right.
So far, so good. :)
http://www.tracey-edwards.com/should-you-vary-your-anchor-text/
That goes to Tracey’s experiment – sorry, forgot to link to it earlier. I can vouch for her findings, I proved it a number of times on my own. Over optimizing is a common SEO no-no, but it all depends who you read, trust, and your own experiments.
Myself, as I mentioned, I don’t do the Google dance anymore. I just climb.
James
Ive been having a REALLY hard time getting more than 15% of my AMR LiveLinks indexed.
What is your present day (Summer 2011) strategy and tactics for getting them indexed?
I am currently using The Indexing Tool (although the blog which is running it isnt too heavily crawled yet)
I am also using BacklinksEnergizer
I have also done an rss submit via Scrapebox two times on the current LiveLinks
I thinking of maybe using SocialAdr or LinkJuicer for indexing these backlinks.
Whats your thoughts on all that?
I actually don’t bother indexing or checking their indexing, apart from the Indexing Tool. I was using BMD for a while on my submissions, but find I rank fine without. And I never rely on any one tool anyway, so I use those articles after a bit of rewriting/spinning in another channel, like ArticleRanks for example, FreeTrafficSystem and now and then will pay for someone to submit to other networks I don’t belong to on Warrior Forum, etc.
I never submit just AMR (unless it’s a web 2.0 satellite site and just want to be quick about it). But in your niche, which is a tough one in terms of competition, I’m guessing you’ll need more than one tool to hack at it. What’s been the effect on your ranking?
How many have you submitted (# of article directories so far)?
oh, haha, sorry this is for another project of mine (non-dating niche)
I submitted what I thought was 4k (on a 50perday schedule), but I think something got screwed up and it actually never submitted even the ones it said were successful.
Anyways, there are only 79 LiveLinks so far (its been a month) and only 9 of those are indexed.
I created a whole new author account and am currently signing up for about 4k sites (ones with 30 or greater health)
Then I will manually hit ‘submit now’ for about 200 sites at a time every day or so. Its a PR1 site with about 400+ indexed pages, domain age 8 years… do you think thats safe?
Wow – that’s a punch in the gut – not sure why that’s so low! I’d go to the forum and post it as a topic. Personally I never got into the stats of my articles other than what was posted, I don’t use the LiveLinks, or the Scheduler features, I just post articles and move on.
In terms of your link velocity, only Google can say what’s safe or not – if it was me, I wouldn’t flinch. I’ve sent 600-1200 links at a time with it on some properties and ended up dancing into oblivion then bouncing back up top without doing anything about it. Scary sounding but it still works.
Oh yeah, give me your thoughts on Magic Submitter after all this Panda stuff? still seeing good results? Ive been wanting to get it for awhile and finally have some cash to burn on it
I’ve stopped all monthly subscriptions but SocialAdr at present, only because I achieved top rankings and didn’t keep submitting (this is when I was convinced one site would do, then Google Pandalized me temporarily).
When I used it, it worked fine – and my linking strategies haven’t changed (using tiered links, big submissions, targeting high PR pages, etc.). SEO hasn’t honestly changed that much from 2010 to 2011, unless all your traffic was coming from article directories (versus high rankings on your site itself).
This type of linking still works, but whether you use it or no is entirely up to you: realize it’s but one solution of hundreds. My personal opinion on it is it rocked, was the best submitter of them all, and got results I couldn’t argue with.
If you have the money for it, SERobot (not SEO Link Robot, but SERobot) is worth looking into, for a one-time payment – has a lot of “Magic” in it in terms of features, including the ability to add your own sites. It is $300 one-off, though – but it’s something to consider.
Or you can simply buy different submitters if you want to link build, like a forum linker, a social submitter, rss submitter, etc. until you essentially have Magic Submitter on your desktop.
OR…you can read Leo Di Milo and focus on getting inbound links by writing serious content and waiting for results/leveraging your own personal network of contacts, etc. (Just wanted to put it out there to say there’s more than one way to get ranking…)
So ‘after all this Panda stuff’ I’m convinced that quality matters on your site. I’m convinced that paying attention to your bounce rate makes sense, to your conversion rate, and tweaking your site/content until you’re convinced the website is something to be proud of.
But do I think that Magic Submitter works after Panda? Definitely.